usa Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 164

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HMM-164 : HMM-164

1964 to 2015    


Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 164 US Marine Corps

Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 164
The Knightriders, tail code YT was created as Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 164 (HMM-164) in July 1964.

In February 1999, the Squadron was re-designed Marine Medium Helicopter Training Squadron 164 ( HMM(T)-164 ) and was tasked to become the Marine Corps Fleet Replacement Squadron for the CH-46E.

On February 2013 the squadron graduated the last eight CH-46 crew chiefs.
On March 2015 HMMT-164, which was the first and last Marine squadron to operate the Sea Knight, was reduced to only two aircraft after they sent the rest to Davis-Monthan Boneyard. The last one will be sent to the Marine Corps Museum.

Redesignated VMM-164 on April 2015
27 CH-46A Sea Knights of HMM-164 arrived at Marble Mountain, South Vietnam on 8 Mar 1966. They were joined in Jun 1966 by the CH-46 of HMM-265.

1964, Was one of the first to transition to the ch-46 from the H-34. Left HMM-361 to develope 164. A great transition, only to requal in the h34 to be sent to VNam in 1965.
Dec66, I was a crew chief with HMM-262 and deployed to Vietnam with the A model. I transferred to HMM-164 in Feb67. We received the D model later that year. I served 19 months in combat and flew on over 300 missions - From the Battle of the Hills to the Tet Offensive to the 77 day siege on Khe Sahn. I have written a book about my time in-country. It is entitled - Flying Death The Vietnam Experience. It is a different perspective of the war as seen through the eyes of a combat helicopter crew chief. The CH-46 is one of the finest helicopters ever built. Its history speaks for itself - In Service for almost 50 years.
Mar/Nov 1972, ch-53 crewchiefs onboard the USS Okinawa (LPH-3). I was a c/c on YT 25 serial 156656, we were right there with the 46s and hueys in too big operations in May and July 11 for which I received an Air medal and the Navy Commendation with Valor. I authorized a Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry Unit Citation but never received it. I had to find out on line I was authorized to wear.Thanks for the Memories
Apr75, participated in Operation Frequent Wind the evacuation of Saigon. Helicopter CH-46 153993 picked up last 11 personnel from roof of US Embassy
1976-1977, Served in Okinawa with HMM-164 in GSE for a year. Had a great time in OKI
1980-Sep89, I served as an Avionicsman, Training NCO and Maintenance Controller. I made 4 WESTPAC's, 2 to Okinawa (Futenma) and 2 onboard ships (USS Okinawa LPH-3 and USS Peleliu LHA-5). Sadly, we crashed 4 aircraft in that time, losing the lives of at least 14 of our brothers. The first (mid 1980?) being during routine training over Tustin, our 46 flew into a CH-53 performing external training. The next (Sept 1983?) was a crash on Okinawa when our bird flew into wires; I believe this was a night op. Then I lost my exceptional OIC 1stLt. Chris Toburen while flying NVG's over Camp Pendleton in (mid 1985?), they flew into the side of a hill. And lastly, we crashed a plane on the deck of the USS Peleliu in (Aug 88?). Although all the crashes to me were meaningful, this one had the most impact on me. We were performing a night assault on Camp Pendleton in preparation of our upcoming WestPac, I was the flight deck troubleshooter, and I was called to spot 2 for a problem. When I got there and spoke with the aircrew, they told me one of their engines was showing no oil pressure. Due to the high tempo of operations, the pilots decided to launch with a full aircraft of grunts, without allowing me to do my job. As soon as they pulled the collective, sparks shot out of that engine burning itself up, no oil pressure means no oil to the engine. The crash alarm sounded, they launched all the other aircraft, and brought this one in for a crash landing. It crashed on the stern of the ship and most of the grunts fell out of the ramp into the ocean. One young Marine was never found. In my tenure I went through at least 5 C.O.'s, Muddy Waters, Herbert T. Nance, G.L. Pirtle, H.G. Wilson, and Guy Vanderlinden. We had a stray dog mascot on Okinawa that we named Herbie after LtCol. Nance. HMM-164 was the first squadron to receive CH-46E aircraft, and we in turn took them to Okinawa via C5A Galaxies (3 per flight). We were also the official squadron to support the Exxon Valdez Alaskan oil spill, flying dignitaries, congressmen and media. HMM-164 has always been a very proud squadron, upholding the highest traditions of Marine Corps aviation. I am extremely proud to have been a member for almost 10 years of a 50 year run. I don't know anyone else that was there longer. I thank all my friends, brothers, co-workers, predecessors, and followers for your devotion and love of the aircraft, the unit, the Corps and our country.
Nov83, My late brother, 1 Lt. Richard A. Dale, was serving with this squadron. During a training deployment to S. Korea, his aircraft encountered a wire strike during conditions of poor visibility. Sadly, my brother did not survive the crash CH-46 156448 RIP
Camp Pendleton Mishap was Sept 1987. LHA5 Mishap was Nov 1987. Sad days indeed.
Oct91-Jun02, I served with HMM-164 and HMM(T)-164. Then as a civilian contractor Mar11-Feb14. I am very proud of my time in HMM-164 and it was a great squadron. A lot of memories and most all are positive. I do know of 1 Marine that served a longer unbroken term than I did but I don't think he has the total time as I do. I guess I got that going for me! Oh, and I was a maintenance controller and signed the ADB on 152562 countless times. Also worked on it as a flight line mechanic. All 46's are special and are sorely missed. BD GySgt Ret.

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Marines HMMT-164 celebrate 50 years, 02-Jul-14 : CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. by Lance Cpl. Caitlin Bevel - Marines with Marine Medium Helicopter Training Squadron 164, Marine Aircraft Group 39, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, I Marine Expeditionary Force, celebrated the 50th anniversary of their squadron and the Boeing Vertol CH-46E Sea Knight aboard Camp Pendleton, Calif., July 1, 2014.


1999/15MCAS Camp PendletonKNFG
1979/99MCAS Santa Ana / TustinKNTK
1966/78JP MCAS FutenmaROTM
1965/66MCAS El ToroKNZJ
1964/65MCAS Santa Ana / TustinKNTK


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